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	<title>Looking Out To Sea &#187; Language</title>
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		<title>You know, that thing where you do science for cake?</title>
		<link>http://www.dougalstanton.net/blog/index.php/2009/03/24/you-know-that-thing-where-you-do-science-for-cake/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the weekend Helen and I were experimented on, and then to make up for it were given cake!

Doing psychology or linguistics experiments is a fairly common feature of the undergraduate lifestyle. There are always MSc or PhD students willing to give you something in exchange for screwing up their experiment giving them useful data.

Emily&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the weekend Helen and I were experimented on, and then to make up for it were given cake!</p>

<p>Doing psychology or linguistics experiments is a fairly common feature of the undergraduate lifestyle. There are always MSc or PhD students willing to give you something in exchange for <del>screwing up their experiment</del> giving them useful data.</p>

<p>Emily&#8217;s doing some research into <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemma_(linguistics)#Psycholinguistics">the two-stage model of word recall/production</a>. Maybe she&#8217;ll actually blog about it at some point, and give the proper details. Until then you&#8217;ll have to put up with my loose interpretation of her explanation from Saturday.</p>

<ul>
<li>Word recall and production is modelled as a two stage process.</li>
<li>The first stage calls up semantic details and (crucially) syntactic details. So you know what the word <em>means</em> and how to <em>use</em> it. But you don&#8217;t actually know the word!</li>
<li>The trick is to force people to manage the first step but to stall at the second step &#8212; the point where the word is on the tip of your tongue but you just can&#8217;t quite bring it forth. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_of_the_tongue">Tip-of-tongue state</a> (ToT from now on).</li>
<li>Once you&#8217;ve got your lab rats into ToT you can ask them questions which should, according to the model, be answerable &#8212; like whether the word is a mass or count noun.</li>
</ul>

<p>(Emily&#8217;s actual work relates to sign language production too, so all this was being done on native English speakers as a control group. Then the hard work of putting signers into tip-of-finger state must commence.)</p>

<p>The actual experiment involved watching a screen flash up definitions for words, which we then had to write down. The hope was that we&#8217;d eventually hit a definition for which we knew the word but couldn&#8217;t <em>quite</em> bring it to the fore. In which case there were further boxes to complete regarding initial letters, syllables, mass/count. Out of 60 definitions I only found myself in ToT <em>once</em>. Compared to about 5 occasions when I couldn&#8217;t think of a word at all that would fit the definition.</p>

<p>So we did that, ate chocolate cake and drank tea.</p>

<p>We walked around the shops in the Newington and Grassmarket area for the afternoon. Got some lunch in Cafe Luciano (amazing bacon rolls) and took a bus over to Stockbridge for more wandering. We met Sarah (from our old sign language class) and her partner (Steve?) in the one pub that wasn&#8217;t completely rugbified to the gills. Then we went over for tea at Sarah and Ferdia&#8217;s (different Sarah). I now know what Julia Roberts&#8217; favourite drink is.</p>
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		<title>Stuff of thought</title>
		<link>http://www.dougalstanton.net/blog/index.php/2009/03/17/stuff-of-thought/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This blog post was written months ago, and I never got round to posting it because I was about to head off at a long and probably pointless tangent. In the interest of getting it out there I&#8217;ve removed the rambling at the end.



I finished Steven Pinker&#8217;s The Stuff of Thought at the weekend. It [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This blog post was written months ago, and I never got round to posting it because I was about to head off at a long and probably pointless tangent. In the interest of getting it out there I&#8217;ve removed the rambling at the end.</em></p>

<hr />

<p>I finished Steven Pinker&#8217;s <em>The Stuff of Thought</em> at the weekend. It is a good book, with plenty to make you think and even a bit to disagree with. But there&#8217;s always plenty to disagree with when people talk about grammar. And he is American, so there&#8217;s bound to be a few areas where our grammars do not overlap.</p>

<p>He goes to some effort to make sure you realise that, despite being a book about thought and language, it&#8217;s not a book about the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. Which is fair enough; Sapir-Whorf discussions get tedious quite quickly.</p>

<p>Instead he writes about what we can infer about our thoughts from how we speak, with particular mind to grammar and metaphors. He argues that there are certain fundamental states and actions which all of our words fall into &#8212; some words imply an active agent, some imply possession or transfer of possession, some imply contact while some work at a distance. This argument was interesting for the way it cuts across the groups of words we naturally think about. Words which seem connected (<em>flow</em> and <em>pour</em>) are completely different, while those with seemingly nothing in common operate similarly. (The way Steven Pinker describes the fundamental traits brought to mind the object/morphism talk of category theory. If only I knew more about either linguistics or category theory!)</p>

<p>The other important message of the book, as I mentioned, is metaphors. Having showed how we talk in terms of actions, movement and possession, Pinker then points out that most of the abstract and sophisticated speeech we use are metaphors based on physical counterparts. Once he points out (oh, there&#8217;s a metaphor, he didn&#8217;t point at anything did he?) that we talk in metaphors all the time it becomes a personal competition to phrase things neutrally. It&#8217;s difficult, let me tell you. Try it yourself.</p>

<p>I do recommend this book. I was given it for Christmas, as well as another slim book by Steven Pinker, which turned out to be a chapter from this one, extracted and published separately: <em>The Seven Words You Can&#8217;t Say On Television</em>. It&#8217;s about swearing, its cognitive effects and such. If you don&#8217;t feel up to reading the whole of <em>The Stuff of Thought</em>, this chapter works very effectively on its own. And who knows, you may start again on chapter one when you&#8217;ve finished.</p>
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		<title>On storms, and what types of cups they appear in</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading the caption on this silly Daily Mail article I decided to do a quick Google experiment. Searching for &#8220;storm in a X-cup&#8221; with quotes and replacing X with various sizes, to see which is the commonest storm type. (I also used an instead of a where relevant.)




  Cup
  Number of storms




 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1079669/Drinking-cups-coffee-day-shrinks-womens-breasts.html">the caption on this silly Daily Mail article</a> I decided to do a quick Google experiment. Searching for &#8220;storm in a X-cup&#8221; with quotes and replacing X with various sizes, to see which is the commonest storm type. (I also used <em>an</em> instead of <em>a</em> where relevant.)</p>

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<thead>
<tr>
  <th>Cup</th>
  <th>Number of storms</th>
</tr>
</thead>
<tbody>
<tr>
  <td>A</td>
  <td>423</td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td>B</td>
  <td>10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td>C</td>
  <td>1320</td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td>D</td>
  <td>79700</td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td>DD</td>
  <td>391</td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td>E</td>
  <td>127</td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td>F</td>
  <td>5</td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td>G</td>
  <td>209</td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td>GG</td>
  <td>8</td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td>H</td>
  <td>2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
  <td>tea</td>
  <td>29300</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
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		<title>Terms of art: boiling</title>
		<link>http://www.dougalstanton.net/blog/index.php/2008/08/22/terms-of-art-boiling/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my recently discovered blogs is Separated by a Common Language, a sort of extended series of notes about the differences in UK and US English. The author is a linguist at some university down south.

I was recently looking through the archives and found an early post about &#8220;roiling and broiling&#8221;. The commenters were [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my recently discovered blogs is <a href="http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/" title="Separated By A Common Language">Separated by a Common Language</a>, a sort of extended series of notes about the differences in UK and US English. The author is a linguist at some university down south.</p>

<p>I was recently looking through the archives and found an early post about &#8220;roiling and broiling&#8221;. The commenters were discussing types of boil, and <a href="http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/2006/05/roiling-and-broiling.html?showComment=1165209840000#c1610651709885234051" title="Link to comment">I particularly liked this comment</a>:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>I would also note that my family has two useful terms for two stages before that:</p>
  
  <ul>
  <li>&#8216;thinking about boiling&#8217; &#8212; when you can see lots of tiny bubbles stuck to the sides and bottom, but it&#8217;s not actually boiling yet</li>
  <li>&#8216;talking about boiling&#8217; &#8212; visually very similar to last stage, but you can hear a rustly/ticking noise that implies it&#8217;s about to start boiling anytime, really, once it gets around to it.</li>
  </ul>
</blockquote>

<p>I really like these.</p>
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		<title>6.40pm Restate my assumptions</title>
		<link>http://www.dougalstanton.net/blog/index.php/2008/03/12/640pm-restate-my-assumptions/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some random thoughts on intelligence, language and related matters.

Creating intelligent agents must be done organically

Human babies don&#8217;t learn about the world through databases, but through the input of their own senses. So to create a human-equivalent agent it makes sense to give it the equivalent set of sensors and effectors as a human being.

This also [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some random thoughts on intelligence, language and related matters.</p>

<h3>Creating intelligent agents must be done organically</h3>

<p>Human babies don&#8217;t learn about the world through databases, but through the input of their own senses. So to create a human-equivalent agent it makes sense to <a href="http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/cog/overview.html">give it the equivalent set of sensors and effectors as a human being</a>.</p>

<p>This also suggests that any agent modelled on something else &#8212; a spider, a cat, a condor &#8212; would be as alien in thought from us as the animal it is designed after.</p>

<p>If you can&#8217;t understand how your cat thinks, how can you expect to find something in common with a being whose only knowledge of the world is through a text terminal or a single fixed camera?</p>

<h3>Human languages are too opaque for serious use</h3>

<p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=normal">&#8220;Normal&#8221;</a> &#8212; accepted (behaviour) or average (production) or perpendicular (line)? No wonder people spend so much time arguing.</p>

<p>Shibboleths are words which mark you out as a member of a particular group. What&#8217;s the word for a word which different groups have in common, but with wildly different definitions?</p>

<h3>Creating a more explicit imperative language</h3>

<p>In light of Simon Peyton Jones&#8217; remark of Haskell being an excellent imperative language, what exact combination of &#8220;programmable semicolons&#8221; is needed to recreate something like C?</p>

<p><div>
<pre class="haskell"><span style="color: #06c; font-weight: bold;">newtype</span> C a = C <span style="color: green;">&#40;</span>ReaderT Const <span style="color: green;">&#40;</span>StateT Global <a href="http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/base/Prelude.html#t:IO"><span style="color: #cccc00; font-weight: bold;">IO</span></a><span style="color: green;">&#41;</span> a<span style="color: green;">&#41;</span>
    <span style="color: #06c; font-weight: bold;">deriving</span> <span style="color: green;">&#40;</span><a href="http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/base/Prelude.html#t:Functor"><span style="color: #cccc00; font-weight: bold;">Functor</span></a>, <a href="http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/base/Prelude.html#t:Monad"><span style="color: #cccc00; font-weight: bold;">Monad</span></a>, MonadIO, MonadState Global, MonadReader Const<span style="color: green;">&#41;</span></pre>
</div></p>

<p>(The above example is basically just the <code>X</code> monad from the window manage Xmonad.) Is there anything else? Disregarding syntax, is the <code>C</code> monad equivalent to a standard imperative language? (In fact it maybe be more like Python than C, given its higher-levelness.)</p>

<h3>Language ambiguity redux</h3>

<p>Can we create a similar stack of environments and assumptions for conversation, from more primitive/abstract building blocks? (Obviously, short answer is no. But bear with me.)</p>

<p>More useful would be a type checker for internet arguments that spits out the following when required:</p>

<p><div>
<pre>Error: Ambiguous context for keyword `normal' at line 17.</pre>
</div></p>
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		<title>How to parse &#8220;offer subject to survey&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.dougalstanton.net/blog/index.php/2008/03/09/how-to-parse-offer-subject-to-survey/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you think &#8220;make an offer subject to survey&#8221; would mean?


We get the place valued and then, if the lenders say aye, we make an offer.
We make an offer and if the sellers accept it the place is valued and the lenders say aye or nay.
We make an offer and get the place valued [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you think &#8220;make an offer subject to survey&#8221; would mean?</p>

<ol>
<li>We get the place valued and then, if the lenders say aye, we make an offer.</li>
<li>We make an offer and if the sellers accept it the place is valued and the lenders say aye or nay.</li>
<li>We make an offer and get the place valued at the same time. Then the lenders say aye or nay and so do the sellers.</li>
</ol>

<p>I assumed 2. The lenders seem to prefer 1. The actual state of affairs seems to be 3. Which is the only one that couldn&#8217;t be inferred from the text. What the hell? 1 and 3 are also the only ones that penalise the buyer if they don&#8217;t get accepted by the seller.</p>

<p>I hate house-buying. :-(</p>
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		<title>Verb, &#8216;to believe&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.dougalstanton.net/blog/index.php/2008/02/15/verb-to-believe/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve just had a look at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=believe for the meaning of the verb &#8216;to believe&#8217; and I found a number of very interesting definitions &#8212; to have confidence or faith in, to hold true, to suppose or assume &#8212; but none of the definitions fit this sentence (my emphasis):


  Last week we learned that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just had a look at <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=believe">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=believe</a> for the meaning of the verb &#8216;to believe&#8217; and I found a number of very interesting definitions &#8212; to have confidence or faith in, to hold true, to suppose or assume &#8212; but none of the definitions fit <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/drugmonkey/2008/02/vaccination_woo_nutz_are_getti.php">this sentence</a> (my emphasis):</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Last week we learned that a family of at least three children had come down
  with measles because their family <em>didn&#8217;t believe in vaccinating them</em> &#8230;</p>
</blockquote>

<p>There are other examples &#8212; just think of all the things people object to. &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe in sex before marriage&#8221;, &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe in abortion&#8221;, &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe in drugs&#8221;.</p>

<p>It should be fairly obvious that this type of person does actually believe in the <em>existence</em> of vaccination, pre-marital sex, abortion or whatever. They might even be involved in protests against them. But it&#8217;s not that they don&#8217;t actually believe in them. It&#8217;s that they <em>don&#8217;t approve of them</em>. So why do people use &#8216;believe&#8217; when they mean &#8216;approve&#8217;?</p>

<p>And just as interesting, why does this very common usage not appear in dictionaries? (I also tried Urban Dictionary and Wiktionary, two sources I thought might mention &#8216;unofficial&#8217; usage. But nothing.)</p>

<p>All this brings up some interesting thoughts when people make &#8220;belief&#8221; claims. If an otherwise smart person says &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe in evolution&#8221;, what do they mean by that? Many creationists argue against evolution on the grounds of moral consequences &#8212; that Hitler was an evolutionist, that Darwinism is a cruel and inhumane philosophy leading to genocide and eugenics, etc. It&#8217;s perfectly possible that &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe in evolution&#8221; has a strong element of &#8220;I don&#8217;t approve of evolution&#8221; or &#8220;I don&#8217;t like the moral consequences of evolution&#8221;.</p>

<p>And since few people seem to make a clear distinction between &#8220;belief as faith&#8221; and &#8220;belief as approval&#8221;, there are further consequences. Is &#8220;belief in God&#8221; entirely to do with faith, or is there an element of approval? A case of &#8220;I approve of God, because that is how I would like things to be&#8221;. An important element of religious faith is the <em>comfort</em> that people derive from it.</p>

<p>I have to admit this is all idle conjecture. But one final thought: whenever I find myself trying to find support for a belief of my own, I have to ask myself why it&#8217;s so important. And the only honest answer I can give myself is that, it&#8217;s important because this is the way I&#8217;d like things to be. If an important part of my world-view is removed, then I have to re-evaluate it all for consistency. That is a lot of work and may reveal things I don&#8217;t like &#8212; about myself, my friends or life in general.</p>
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		<title>Language aptitude, multitasking, abstract reasoning</title>
		<link>http://www.dougalstanton.net/blog/index.php/2008/01/30/language-aptitude-multitasking-abstract-reasoning/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m curious whether these memes have any basis in reality:


Men have better visual/spatial reasoning than women.
Women have better language skills than men.
Men have better abstract reasoning skills than women.
Women are better at multitasking than men.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious whether these memes have any basis in reality:</p>

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<li>Men have better visual/spatial reasoning than women.</li>
<li>Women have better language skills than men.</li>
<li>Men have better abstract reasoning skills than women.</li>
<li>Women are better at multitasking than men.</li>
</ul>

<p>I&#8217;ve googled lots but come up empty. Well, lots of people convinced of the truth of these statements but no-one with so much as a reference to follow up.</p>

<p>The women/language one is the only one I know a little about, in that the Daily Mail seems extraordinarily keen on repeating the <a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004370.html" title="Language Log on 'The Female Brain'">pop-science myths which <em>The Female Brain</em> described</a> &#8212; women talk more than men, etc.</p>

<p>Some information on the origins and veracity of these claims would be really interesting.</p>
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		<title>BSL lesson: describing animals and people; and going on holiday</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve got to record what we did this week at BSL because Helen wasn&#8217;t there. And we&#8217;ve got homework so I thought I&#8217;d write it here so it&#8217;s easy to access.

Describing people and animals

We followed on from the previous week, doing more description of animals first, then of people after the break. It&#8217;s still really [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to record what we did this week at BSL because Helen wasn&#8217;t there. And we&#8217;ve got homework so I thought I&#8217;d write it here so it&#8217;s easy to access.</p>

<h3>Describing people and animals</h3>

<p>We followed on from the previous week, doing more description of animals first, then of people after the break. It&#8217;s still really hard to picture what is distinctive about people. Same with animals &#8212; there&#8217;s always something that&#8217;s really stereotypical or indicative but it&#8217;s hard to come up with. Last week I was trying to describe a wolf but completely forgot about the &#8220;howling at the moon&#8221; behaviour, so nobody knew what I was talking about.</p>

<p>This week I managed to convey a goat pretty well, but it&#8217;s easier because not many animals butt heads and have long beards. That&#8217;s really <em>goatish</em>. I then elected to describe Johnny Rotten, which I thought would be pretty straight-forward. The first guess was Sid Vicious! Meh.</p>

<p>Still pretty difficult to describe without using topic words: to say &#8220;23&#8221; instead of &#8220;age 23&#8221; or &#8220;blonde&#8221; instead of &#8220;hair blonde&#8221;. It&#8217;s the same mindset that has people prefixing every sentence by pointing to themselves. In other words, English grammar.</p>

<h3>Holiday</h3>

<p>We spent the majority of the lesson covering arrangements for holidays &#8212; stuff you need to have, stuff you need to do, that kind of thing. Most of it airport-based, I suppose because it has the most scope for distinctive vocabulary. People use trains to get to work, but departure lounges and x-ray scanners are not day-to-day things.</p>

<p>Let me see, there was &#8220;waiting&#8221; and &#8220;queue&#8221; and &#8220;lounge&#8221; and &#8220;complain&#8221; and &#8220;argument&#8221;. You can tell we&#8217;ve all been to airports before, right? And &#8220;late&#8221; but also &#8220;early&#8221;, &#8220;sunglasses&#8221; and &#8220;midge repellent&#8221; and the names of a bunch of different countries.</p>

<p>The sign for Hawaii is good, because it&#8217;s like a little grass-skirted hula dance. For the record, Scotland is a stylised bagpipe sign, a sort of one-armed chicken flap. This is apparently called <em>metonymy</em> &#8212; referring to one thing by describing something that is related to it. English has this when we talk about &#8220;the crown&#8221; to mean the monarchy. This happens loads in sign language and is one of the things I really enjoy about it. Some of the examples I&#8217;ve seen have been very enlightening and evocative (though naturally I can&#8217;t think of any right now).</p>

<h3>Homework</h3>

<p>For next week we&#8217;ve to come up with a two-minute story describing &#8220;setting off on holiday&#8221;. Everything to the point where the plane takes off, except the decision-making process which is boring. So: packing, readying the house (cancelling milk, etc.), getting money/insurance, leaving for the airport. That should be more than enough for two minutes of presentation.</p>
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		<title>What gets lost when words are written down?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dougal</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Guns, Germs and Steel (a very interesting though eventually quite repetitive book), Jared Diamond tells of a native American who invented an alphabet for his own tongue, after seeing how the Europeans gained such power and expression from their written words. The story (as I remember it) is that he got a sample of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <em>Guns, Germs and Steel</em> (a <a href="http://brokenhut.livejournal.com/273888.html" title="My thoughts on Guns, Germs and Steel">very interesting though eventually quite repetitive book</a>), Jared Diamond tells of a native American who invented an alphabet for his own tongue, after seeing how the Europeans gained such power and expression from their written words. The story (as I remember it) is that he got a sample of the alphabet we used and started assigning sounds from his own language. When he reached the limit of the borrowed glyphs, he started to invent new ones.</p>

<p>It seems odd that people think of the alphabet we use in this country as &#8216;the English alphabet&#8217; when it so poorly suited to the English language. So many sounds we make in English are not catered for &#8212; we must use combinations like &#8216;sh&#8217; or &#8216;th&#8217; or &#8216;ch&#8217; to make up for the shortfall Over the centuries we&#8217;ve even lost letters that used to do some of these jobs. Even if we consider the stand-ins as single letters rather than pairs, there are so many odd exceptions and disparities between spoken and written English. Would you guess &#8216;onion&#8217; is actually pronounced more like &#8216;union&#8217; looks, which itself is actually pronounced more like &#8216;yoonyin&#8217;? (But then, you&#8217;ll probably disagree completely because your accent is so different from mine.)</p>

<p>There is an <a href="http://www.rrf.org.uk/newsletter.php?n_ID=95" title="Reading Reform Foundation newsletter">interesting article about the effect of this arbitrary mapping of sound to symbol</a>. The awkwardness of the English language in this regard is contrasted with reading in Germany and Austria, with terrifying results:</p>

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  <p>Some children in countries with transparent alphabets do have reading
  problems, but these have to do with fluency and comprehension.  Yet even this
  is relative.  Normal readers from Salzburg were compared to normal readers
  from London on tests of reading accuracy and speed.  Seven year-olds from
  Salzburg read as fast as the 9 year olds from London, making half the number
  of errors.  The Austrian 7 year-olds had one year of reading instruction, the
  English 9 year-olds, four or five.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>There seems to be a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_spelling_reform" title="Spelling reform">long history of attempted spelling reform</a> for the English language, with limited success. The American dictionary compilers have obviously had the most success, though all they&#8217;ve really done is entrench differences in pronunciation. There is a <em>big</em> difference between &#8216;mum&#8217; and &#8216;mom&#8217;, after all.</p>

<p>I started along this track after reading complaints from BSL users about using the English alphabet. BSL reduced to written words removes all the subtlety and all the power from the language. But then, it does that to most spoken English as well. I wonder if the American fellow mentioned above, who invented his own alphabet to suit his own way of speaking, felt the same?</p>
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